MarkinUtah mentioned rifle weight and that is a great point. I fired a 7mag with standard factory ammo and light weight synthetic furniture and stock vs the old classic Springfield in 30-06 in its more or less original wood furniture and the 30-06 was more pleasent to shoot. The 7mag is not my cup of tea and my understanding is that it is fading a bit in popularity since its circa 1963 intro by Remington. None the less its a good western cartridge and if you can find a used rifle in good condition particuarly with wooden furniture for under $350 go for it. In LA with synthetic furniture I have seen them go for $400 in a package deal at Big -5 or Turners. If you can't find them used check with Wallyworld if they sell firearms in your state. Leonard
My understanding about Wallyworld is anybody can buy a firearm at has long its legal for them to sell firearms in that state ( My state Calif its a big no-no for Wallyworld to sell firearms because their employess made the brilliant decision to sell firearms to ex-felons). Wallyworld offers a ordering service where if they don't have a particuular firearm in stock it can be ordered. I bought my firearms at a good price from a small independent firearms dealer in Redondo Beach called WestCoast Guns. I am conflicted about WallyWorld because they are very anti-union and I belong to a union but they did try to have a buy USA only policy which collapsed because their competitors undercut them by selling forign goods and they do sell firearms cheap and good brands at that. I am suprised that the Chinese are not producing classic firearms such has the pre-1964 Model 70 Winchesters etc. since industrial patents are only good for 17 years. I know the Chinese have produced modern military firearms since at least the 1960's such has the AK-47 that were not the best AK -varient but were still functional.
Most everything has been said about recoil being subjective based on the different factors. I have a 140gr load that flat smokes and it doesn't bother me, but 150gr loads in a Model 600 .308 Win I have is flat abusive! From the bench it's enough to surprise veteran's but with 180's it will make the "mag men" flinch!
Most of the people I know that have used one don't think it's bad at all. I would suspect most were using standard weight rifles with pads.
I remember a girl I went to high school with ( Nicki?) used to shoot one. She took animals with it and didn't say anything about recoil. A great deal is also perceived recoil. A big muzzle blast, stiff trigger, and poor fitting stock will cause a much different perception.
What kind of experience a shooter has is also key. Nate
Post by littlemagnum on Jul 25, 2005 2:52:29 GMT -5
I don't think it's much more then a 270/30-06. I have win featherweight 270 and it kicks about the same a my heavier Mauser 7mm rem mag, when both guns are shooting 150gr loads. Weight of the guns, play into more then you think. If your can shoot a 270win well, you will have no problem shooting a 7mm mag. Have a good recoil pad installed. Pachmayr decelerator pad is a good one.
Kicks like a mule! Thats exactly how I feel about it. I had a bad experience with my Dad's 7mm Mag. It was a 1970's model 700. In the late 90s I decided to take it on a hunt. He didn't tell me the trigger was excessively tight. I mean, you had to WAIL on that trigger to get the thing to shoot. Once it did fire, WHAM...it was painful because it was very awkward to keep the butt tight on my shoulder while trying to pull that messed up trigger. It left me a sore shoulder and a bumped eye. That scope got me pretty good that day! I dropped a nice 8 point with the shot though. Had I missed, I would have passed on the second shot...thats for sure!!!! There was no way to know when it would fire!
Somehow or another, Dad needed a whole new barrel. There was excessive head space or something of that nature. The guys over at Briley here in Houston replaced the barrel with one of their custom jobbies. The barrel was over $600, but there we didn't have the heart to turn old faithful into a wall hanger. They do great work if you ever need a repair. Add a trigger job and now he has one fine gun. It still kicks hard, but at least you know when its coming!
Post by idahoelk49 on Sept 26, 2007 16:32:21 GMT -5
I was a little uncomfortable with the Ruger 7mm mag recoil, so took old Ruger to gun shop and had a muzzle brake installed last year. Noticed improvment right away either off hand shooting or bench. The groups are tight as before, so a good 125.00 investment Seems just like the old '06 now.
Post by oregonblacktailer on Nov 25, 2007 13:15:02 GMT -5
It all depends onhow hot of a laod you are using. a 140grain will kick a whole lot less than a hot 175grain. PLus when you are actually focusing onthe animal through your scope, you dont worry about the kick and therefore dont feel it as much.
I had a Browning Abolt stalker no pad for 6 years than stopped hunting and sold it. Just started hunting again this year again and I am kicking my self in the rear for selling it, The best gun I ever had loved it always right on target dropped deer in thair tracks the recole never bothered me I am a big guy 6ft 200lbs. Looking forward to the day I can buy another 7mm Mag
He's on target. Different loads and different manufacturer's can make or break a first time experience on shooting a 7 mag or any other caliber for that matter. It's all on design, weight, and loads.
I wouldn't for one want a ultra light magnum rifle. I'm not into muzzle breaks. I've seen a Howa 7mm-08 kick just as hard as a Remington 700 in a 7mag. Now that I spoke of Remington, I shot a 300win mag in a Rem ADL and to this day I don't think I've ever been punished as bad by anyother rifle. The cheaper winchester 70 in composite stock came in a close second. I have a Ruger no 1 in a 300 win mag and one in a 375 h&h and to me it's whole different kick. To me it's a push not a jump n buck type kick. I do believe in personal choice in what styles of rifles you like to shoot. I just don't like a bruised arm and a bruised face at the same time. Stock design and weight to me make all the difference.
I would ask some friends that have different rifles to ask them if you can shoot them and see what you like about the rifles and don't like.
I have a S&W 7MM Mag, I just love best shooting rifle I have ever owned or shot. For most game you don't need to shoot any rounds over 140 or 150 gr.. For elk you may want to go a little heavier but it is more about shot placement then bullet grains
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