Hi, New guy in this Forum, And couple of questions reference the 300 WBY MAG. Any thoughts or expierence hunting Moose, Bear(Brown or Grizzly), and down to White Tail Deer? Also I have heard that the 300 H&H Mag will work in a 300 Wby Mag rifle, anybody know if this is true? and Last compared to a 338 win mag?
Post by DeeInTejas on Dec 12, 2004 19:05:26 GMT -5
I don't know about the 300 H&H working in a 300 Weatherby, but I don't think I would try it. The two cartridges look very different from one another. The 300 Weatherby is based on the 300 H&H cartridge, but the shoulder angle is alot different.
You should be able to get 300 Weatherby ammo at a somewhat more affordable price now. I know Remington makes it now, so I am almost positive so does Federal, Winchester, etc. It is a very very powerful cartridge. Burns alot of powder, but also shoots the heavy bullets very hard and flat. EXTREMELY HEAVY RECOIL!
For whitetails, it's way overkill. Not sure about Elk or Moose. I know a couple guys who have them, they love them. They are both good, experienced hunters. They have taken several bull elk with it.
One of my good buddies has a .300 weatherby in both a vanguard and a high end weatherby that i'm not sure the model. We live in the east but he travels out west each year to hunt elk and mulies, so that was the original purpose for the rifle. I'm not sure about it's preformance out there because that was a while back and i can't quite recall. Anyway, he soon purchased a 340 weatherby mag which replaced the 300 for the elk and mulies. You also asked about the 338 win, which his son has. I have shot all 3 of them and have seen each perform on whitetails here in the east. First of all, the 300's recoil isn't all that bad, and yes he hand-loads very hot. If you're a woods hunter, with most shots under 150 yards, it'd be very unpractical to take a gun chambered in this caliber. Long range situations on whitetail...still too much power but very accurate and flat shooting and you could definately reach out there with enough practice. It's by far the most accurate of the 3. Now the 338 win...loads nosler ballistic tips(not sure of weight) very hot. Doesn't shoot as flat or accurate as the 300, but still a very nice caliber for elk and bigger. Blows deer all to pieces and i can't see any reason other than long range situations when it should be used for whitetails. I've shot a doe in the neck with it and her head was barely connected to her body. Again recoil isnt punishing, but not comfortable to shoot at extended sessions at the range. I've shot the 340 once and still have the scar over my right eye, terrible recoil and is overkill on just about anything here in North America except maybe the biggest browns. Those are just my opinions though. Also, i'm considering a 300 weatherby in the vanguard, just because of the low price, to see how good i can get it to shoot waayyy out there. good luck bro. oh yeah, i certainly would not interchange those cartridges under any circumstances, too much rish for me
I shoot the .300 H&H and it is a good round. Took my first elk with it.
You can fireform .300 H&H brass in the Weatherby chamber (that is how Roy Weatherby did it originally) but you can pretty well kiss hunting accuracy good bye if you do. After the brass is fireformed you are good to go. It is the same concept as firing a standard round in an Ackley Improved chamber. The only reason a person would want to is to save money or if they could not find .300 WBY brass. My thoughts on using the Weatherby can be summed up in one word "handload". If you don't now it would be wise to learn. WBY ammunition can be pricey. As for using it on whitetails to moose. You can load it up or down. You can load it to .300 velocities for the big stuff and down to .30/06 velocities for whitetail/antelope sized game. Recoil is noticebly more than an '06 or .270 but it is still managable. If you use the .300 WBY it is best to use premium bullets. At those velocities you want something that holds together good.
Post by handloader1 on Dec 15, 2004 0:57:05 GMT -5
If I could only own one caliber for medium and big game, it would be the .300 Wby. Mag., and yes people do use them to hunt the great bears. For the great bears I would use 200 gr. Barnes XFB, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Swift A-Frame hand loads. One can buy factory ammo from 150 gr. to 220 gr. If you handload you can go as far down as 110 gr. for varmints or plinking. For elk I would use a 200 gr. Weatherby Nosler Partition, Remington Swift A-Frame (Factory loads). For Pronghorn I would go with a 150 gr. Weatherby Nosler Partition, Weatherby Pointed Expanding, or Hornady SST (Factory loads). For white tail I would use a Weathery 220-gr. Hornady RN Expanding (Factory load) (I would handload the same bullet) and aim for the ribs that deer will not know what hit him (I don't believe in overkill). If you handload, the possibilities are greater which I take advantage of. Good luck.
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